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    • Villupt
      The “spirit” realm in beings cannot be sensed perceived ,by any physical science : it is Spirit & only it’s manifestations are perceived.

    • Perception of “spirit” as atoms quarks electrons is not valid. ,since Spirit is not perceivable physically.

      Atoms quarks etc are Biochem physio Science descriptions ; Spirit is beyond this and can never be perceived physically ; Manifestations as Akin ( pure innocent bird pigeon dove, hen etc., clouds ie not solid , but energy )in understandable methods does occur , but Spirit is not Physical

      • Yes that’s totally right, but I want to communicated ; when when we reach the closest physicL examination of material, we would get clue of another entity within the quark or so on… that will go on until the physicality itself dissolve and nothing but the original spirit were there. From the point of view of Vedanta also and Non duality. so, the original nature of matter is also superconsciousness which is again unobserbable by any physics. but by only consciousness.

        • Some physicality caused by gross people , can be dissolved by More Spiritually True; other Physicality that was Originally created for Pure reasons , gets transformed glorified by More True into Righteous transcendent quality.
          Also the pure Spirit energy is Infinite and creates endlessly when Actualised by the Righteous

          • Factually, the supreme absolute spirit soul is the cause of every kind of manifestation, and He is always complete, both as the energy and as the energetic. The cosmic manifestation is caused by the energy of the Supreme Absolute Person, in whom all energies are conserved. Philosophers who are subjectively engaged in the cosmic manifestation can appreciate only the wonderful energies of matter. Such philosophers accept the conception of God only as a product of the material energy. According to their conclusions, the source of the energy is also a product of the energy. Such philosophers wrongly observe that the living creatures within the cosmic manifestation are caused by the material energy, and they think that the supreme absolute conscious being must similarly be a product of the material energy

            • God is Source of Energy true; that’s how He is God.

            • Yes it’s true that the same Source is Origin of all Energy and Choice to beings; There are Levels of Good and it’s Opposite also; some used Choice for evil and that is not called as God; the Godly can Change the evil via Choice and Virtue strength by Overpowering it, decapacitatibg it, consuming or dissolving it.

        • Matter is not superconsciousness ; a dead being has no Consciousness.

          Spirit, Soul and Body are separate entities with Spirit being predominant.

          Antaraatma ( conscience spirit energy pneuma breath) is Consciousness , and Atma (;thought, emotions, volition)& Shareer ( body physicality )are subject to it

          • The material manifestation is caused by the glance of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is inconceivably potent. Material nature is electrified by the supreme authority, and the conditioned soul, within the limits of time and space, is trapped by awe of the material manifestation. In other words, the Supreme Personality of Godhead is actually realized in the vision of a material philosopher and scientist through the manifestations of His material energy. For one who does not understand the power of the Supreme Personality of Godhead or His diverse energies because of not knowing the relationship between the source of the energies and the energies themselves, there is always a chance of error, which is known as ‘vivarta’

            • Some material manifestations are caused by Evil choices of humans, as pornography, underworlds, deceptions etc…
              God has not Sourced the evil .
              God ( the Refined pure spirit Energy with no scope of evil ever) is Source of Choice and Purity truth

            • Not all material manifestations are godly; thus they are subject to destruction by Power of Godliness.

            • God is described as Pure and He or His Creation is pure , originally; evil Choices twist it or opt to usurp the Energy for evil. This is obvious

              There is an Involution factor in God wherein energy sublimates in perfection, in real everywhere and with eventuality

            • Godly presence instills Merit energy into spirit of another and that energies the corporeality also ; matter was energised by God’s Intent, presence and power.

            • God is liberator from all trappings and illusions; description of God ccorrectly enables Realisation of his Power better; its oft progressive in civilisation.

        • A physical method is not prime nor essential towards Sensing the spiritual; some use it, but it’s not the Ideal.

          People choose and stay Gross cruel selfish materialistic for Years, and due to the negative experience, seek God; and there are some who very early on are Spiritual and seek God by virtue of choice Intent Pure holy life, and they become Masters and Serve more.

          Essentially, God factor is of Spirit realm , an Energy, and is known via it , more facilitatively

          • Villupt
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            There is no prime method to actually realization of Supreme consciousness , we can only try different ways and methods. As per the enlightened person like Raman maharsi; Your enquiry should start from you, and first question would be ‘who I am’ ? That is also vedanta compliance and also called self enquiry. In this method even you enter inside you observe physicallity first, I am not this! Nore that! Etc. And finally reach to the answer of who i am? So , it also start with questions of body material and then so on.. I mean to say there is methods of direct realization but it is not suitable for normal people like me!

            • All normal people can know the Prime Method with a Scientific spiritual process; Knowing and Applying the Prime Method early on , lessens faults that jeopardise Innocents and cause Martyrdoms

            • The Experiences and Knowledge of previous Thinkers are not always Perfect, but propel towards something Better also.

            • I think that Values also need Guide Lines within Schedules, towards Implementation; it Influences the Natural giveTake and all of ecoPolitical dynamics.

            • Your ref to Who are We and also, I think, Understanding Cause of All Existence that takes to Root of Effects ( This incl. Oneself Who are We)

            • Prime herein would refer “As Correct as Knowable at the Time.”

            • Normal would indicate that We know Right hand from Left, When we are hurting, If we are full with the Meal : such could also Know Spiritual correctness in timely manner. There could be Stumblings, but its not Intentional . These are Shared to lessen Sufferings in general and Particular

            • Prime method indicates a Pure method to access a Pure God ; since God is eternal Spirit Truth and is accessible via True intent, a Method that enables Trueness is essential ; all spirituality is about being True to be able to access more of God

    • The “pure Consciousness” of some Within is an Original Image in subtle of their Physicality – it does have an Identifiable structure spiritually, and depending upon Volition , is manifestation.

      • we do eveyone have pure consciousness within us , only the difference is how many layers of shadows is blocking to realize within, but the observer itself not aware of the fact that it is there and always there!! only need to observe within the formless. but again the way is going through the physicality because without the tool we cannot make a machine. All we have is this body and organs. so we do have power to access the subtle with the help of Gros…

        • The spirit can be accessed only by spirit ; the gross is a barrier and has to be overcome.. . God can access our Spirits without gross ; God is Spirit true.
          This is a prefixed Norm of Existence that cannot be dissolved or ignored.

          In unmanifesred state, soirits access God ( pure soirit energy being); when existent, thats why they have an Urge to prevent cure Pain / seek Peace.

          Involution or Development of Spirit Energ,y into Complete absence of Capacity to produce pain at all, seems an Intent/ Heaven Molecular Structure

        • Pure consciousness is only in those who Opt it or are Created so..
          This is easily Observable and Measurable from EQ , SQ

    • Attitudes, Beliefs, Decisions and resultant Performance is Manifestation of the Spirit one has.

      SQ , EQ and IQ are some methods to Calibrate a Manifestation.

      Other “spiritual” dimensions ( beyond the Justice aspect) are beyond Calibration since they are Infinite purity ( not for Calibration, but in Love zone , wherein its Personally experienced)

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